
Tuesday, March 01, 2005
"I would anticipate that other states and provinces across North America will pursue it when they see that, in fact, in Ontario it got safer with this bill," Attorney General Michael Bryant said of the legislation, which was passed by the provincial legislature. "Mark my words, Ontario will be safer."Ok, Mr. Attorney General, we will mark your words.
"Blame Canada ! Blame Canada!"
I'll mark his words too..
"it got safer"
Sounds like English to me.
::grins::
Speaking of Canada- Has anybody been noticing more ads in the paper for CKC?Instead of AKC?
By Jodi, at 8:34 AM, March 02, 2005
Although there minds are already made up,I have to say they Canada is making a big mistake. They had a chance to make a statement to human-aggresive dog owners.They could have show them that the Goverment won't tolerate it.But instead,they fled from their responsibilty and banned an innocent breed.
All banning a breed will do is punish the breed instead of the owners.Drug dealers will just run to another breed.Stupid people who wants to own the meanest dog will do the same.Is the goverment going to start banning retrievers?And another thing.Seeing that they're interested in banning threats,I know of a 12 year old who murdered his grandparents.Why don't they ban 12 year olds? Commonsense tells one why.Than why don't they use that commonsense with dogs.Because they'er lazy.They aren't willing to spend a little time and money on educating the public.As the editer of the Pit bull Gazzett pointed out "Instead of wasting their money on supporting BSL they could use that money to educate the public,make sure the media gets their facts straight on which dog caused the attack, and make stricter penalties for those who purposely breed and train human aggresive dogs".I Guess that was too much to ask for and now guess what.Dog ownership in Canada is coming to a sad end.Next will be retrievers, german shepherds, rottwielers,huskies,etc.
By , at 9:24 AM, March 02, 2005
Well, it looks like Canada is falling right behind the United States in it's ignorant leaders, and the people that support them. Isn't it a shame that no one in power is interested in education anymore. Let's kill those with the disease, instead of finding out and finding a cure for the cause. It's a pity Canada is right behind the United States,
By , at 10:56 AM, March 02, 2005
Well done, Ontario! We have the same law in England (plus existing pit bulls must be spayed/neutered) and yes, it is safer. Stop blaming the law makers who are doing what the public demand and start blaming those who have caused the problems & tragedies over many years - education hasn't stopped them because they are not animal lovers.
By , at 11:28 AM, March 02, 2005
What in the world are you talking about safer.Banning pitbulls will not make Cancda safer from dog attacks.It only makes them safer from pitbulls attacks.Of course you're probally too damm moronic to know that.
And as for what the public demanded,you're crazy.In a recent poll 80% of the people was against banning pitbulls.The Canadian lawmakers passed the ban because thay were too lazy and stupid to come up with a perfect undiscrimminating law-as you are.
By , at 1:05 PM, March 02, 2005
Well, do enlighten us with your "perfect undiscriminating law"...??
By the way "undiscriminating"? What dictionary do you use?
Sometimes education falls on deaf ears.
By , at 1:36 PM, March 02, 2005
I use the Adrian Micheal McFarland dictionary.I'm the chooser of the words I use.
As for the perfect law.When you look at all the good fair laws they all have one thing in common.They find the root cause of the problem and attack it.Pitbulls are not the root cause.If they were than why does retrievers and other breeds cause deaths as well?Answer me that if you're smart enough.
By the way I want to tell pitbull owners that they need to calm down and re-win Canada again.Its possible.We can't surrender now.We must stay resolute and show that we are half as game as pitbulls are. With more effort and prayers we will reclaim Canada along with every other city,providence, and country.
By , at 1:48 PM, March 02, 2005
un·dis·crim·i·nat·ing pronunciation of "undiscriminating" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nd-skrm-ntng)
adj.
1. Lacking sensitivity, taste, or judgment.
2. Indiscriminate
How's that? I believe the person used the correct word. One could also use it to describe you.
By , at 1:51 PM, March 02, 2005
So I beat you.You weren't smart enough to answer my question.Who cares about dictionaries,the topic is this pitbull ban.And I'm also warning you that its not wise to argue with me or pitbulls owners.We're mad right now.Stay in your country and celebrate the ban your country have.
By , at 2:17 PM, March 02, 2005
Actually, you didn't answer mine. What is this "perfect undiscriminating law"?
As for your threat....Thank you for proving my point about pit bull owners!
By , at 3:05 PM, March 02, 2005
That was not a threat. What I meant was we'll not back down from an argument.And as for the word you;re talking about,I have no ideal what you mean You have greatly confused me.This is the last time I'm responding.It's clear that you're a pitbull hater while I'm a pitbull lover.I'll just respect your beliefs.I was wrong not to in the first place.I'm soory I didn't.
By , at 3:16 PM, March 02, 2005
As I respect yours.
Believe me, I don't hate pit bulls. It just breaks my heart to see so many euthanized because of bad owners.
I don't know what the answer is.
Perhaps instead of fighting each other, we should join forces to find a solution. Maybe much stiffer penalties for bad owners? Maybe tougher licensing laws?
By , at 3:43 PM, March 02, 2005
Pit bulls aren't all that innocent of breed. Over the years everytime that I'ved seen some account of a dog attacking a human on the TV news or in the newspaper, 99% of time it has been Pit Bulls.
If you want to be upset at anyone for this ban becoming law blame the people who owned them and didn't train/control them properly.
The ban addresses the root of the problem...people owning pit bulls who shouldn't. I've never heard of another breed mistaking an infant for a toy or prey. I wish the AKC and US would follow suit.
By , at 9:21 PM, March 02, 2005
i have been reading about banning pit-bulls for afew months now, i really am sorry the canadian gov. went through with it. i do believe it's the fault of the owners, not the dog. any dog can be vicious. i really feel bad.
By , at 10:06 PM, March 02, 2005
I think it is about time,wish we would here.Very dangerous in In parts of Ca.
By , at 11:45 PM, March 02, 2005
I myself own a pit bull. and she is absolutely wonderful! the only kind of "attacking" she does is with kisses.before i got her, she was abused, beaten and under nurished, yet she is still full of energy and love. she is very obedient and know how to act around people and other animals. if were trying to fix the real problem here, and you really want to start "banning" living things. it only makes sense to ban the ignorant people that train them to be vicious. when children are abused and grow up to be killers and violent more people than pit bulls have killed in history. so why havent we banned abused children? its selfish and impractical, thats why. just like this law to ban innocent animals whose only fault is falling into the hands of bad, stupid people
By , at 7:20 AM, March 03, 2005
Beginning of Breed Genocide if this speads too far..a sad day.
By , at 8:26 AM, March 03, 2005
I am from Canada, and am ashamed to say I was born in Ontario. Recently proposed BSL in PEI was defeated, definitely a step in the right direct. It is very frustrating for someone to support BSL when there is no facts to support it, if any one were to research BSL they would find its ineffective. Ontario's ban is just politians way of looking like they are doing something, there must be an election soon. Some people will never changed thier minds no matter how much you prove them wrong, they are stubborn and don't like to be wrong. Ontario won't be safer, there will be just as many dog attacks, irresponsible owners will move on to another breed, is Ontario going to ban that breed too? It's the equivilent of putting a band aid on a leaky faucet. We need to start looking at laws that address the cause of fatal dog attacks and dog attacks by all breeds and work on preventing those. I just can't express enough just how frustrated I am that this ban actually went through levels of Canadian government, how can these elected officals be so misguided and misinformed. Heather, PEI, Canada.
By , at 10:29 PM, March 03, 2005
Rightly said.
By , at 8:13 AM, March 06, 2005
Its really importain for all lawmakers to realize that the dogs attacks statics are wrong.If one belive those statics it makes owning a putbulls look foolhardy.
But the truth is those statics are sooooo WRONG.Here's why.One,many don't know how a pitbull looks so they mistakenly lables the wrong breed as one.In the past this happen almost all the time and as a result the pitbull were blame for attacks they never committed.Great Danes and Boxers are just afew of the breeds thoight to have been pitbulls.
Two,the media intentionally calls almost every dog attack "pitbull".There have been stories where the victems of dog attacks just throws out the name pitbull just for attention.Every one knows that "PITBULL ATTACKS CHILD" sounds more interesting than "DOG ATTACKS CHILD".
Finally,you have some stupid groups who intentionally flames pitbulls just to get them ban-who knows why. They don't tell that pitbulls are so human submissive that they are the number one breed stolen.Or that pitbulls are the best scoring dog in the temperament test.Or that pitbulls are so slow to attack humans that some kennels actully have to have guard dogs to protect the pitbulls.
The fact: pitbulls are blame for deaths and attacks they never did. FACT.
By , at 9:18 AM, March 06, 2005
Its really importain for all lawmakers to realize that the dogs attacks statics are wrong.If one belive those statics it makes owning a putbulls look foolhardy.
But the truth is those statics are sooooo WRONG.Here's why.One,many don't know how a pitbull looks so they mistakenly lables the wrong breed as one.In the past this happen almost all the time and as a result the pitbull were blame for attacks they never committed.Great Danes and Boxers are just afew of the breeds thoight to have been pitbulls.
Two,the media intentionally calls almost every dog attack "pitbull".There have been stories where the victems of dog attacks just throws out the name pitbull just for attention.Every one knows that "PITBULL ATTACKS CHILD" sounds more interesting than "DOG ATTACKS CHILD".
Finally,you have some stupid groups who intentionally flames pitbulls just to get them ban-who knows why. They don't tell that pitbulls are so human submissive that they are the number one breed stolen.Or that pitbulls are the best scoring dog in the temperament test.Or that pitbulls are so slow to attack humans that some kennels actully have to have guard dogs to protect the pitbulls.
The fact: pitbulls are blame for deaths and attacks they never did. FACT.
By , at 9:18 AM, March 06, 2005
I am extremely embarrassed to say I'm from Ontario.
It's too bad that the people of this once great province have become so stupid. Liberals have screwed everyone here not doing what they promised, yet they'll still get back in.
And I don't feel any safer now that pit bulls are banned. Murders and home invasions are on the rise.
(and I do not own a pit bull, I own a Corgi)
By , at 5:58 PM, March 21, 2005
A pitbull is A Human Friendly Dog,I absolutely agree that Pits are accused for every attack,A pit is bred for dog to dog aggression.Im in South Africa and Here German Sheperds and Rottweilers attack more people than pits do,but the idiotic media always make the details sound crazy when a pit is involved.WHY HATE A PIT?If One has to be fair then ban every aggressive dog,including A Labrador,let a Kid step on it's tail and watch how it attacks the Kid,whereas the Pit has a high threshold for pain and would not harm the kid.
By , at 9:44 AM, May 18, 2005
People I think Education is important...that is HUMANS BEING EDUCATED ABOUT DOGS,before these laws were passed,how many of them actually researched or tested the temperament of Pitbulls?If A person has half a brain,like for everything else "SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT," test the Pitbull,associate with them and see the Real Pitbull Characteristics,not listen 2 fools who believe everything they hear...from fools.
By , at 9:47 AM, May 18, 2005
Some interesting comments posted over the last two months regarding Pitbulls/attacks/irresponsible owners/legislation etc. I just got off the phone with my brother-in-law who was attacked in his front yard Monday in Niagara Falls, Ontario by a father-son pitbull duo who took him down like a deer, dragged him across the yard, tearing through his runner and ripping off his pants. When his neighbour came to the rescue he managed to ward them off with a broom...only to be attacked a few minutes later as he walked home. The dogs actually waited for him down the street and as the older, larger dog took him down, the younger dog went for his throat and he suffered numerous lacerations including a severed artery in his upper arm. The dogs managed to destroy a cat shortly thereafter before the authorities managed to collar them...The sad thing here is the fact that these animals had been allowed to run at random for the past year and the owners had been fined on several occasions....so then...why wasn't there stronger legislation in place at the time-either at the municipal, provincial or federal level to ensure that the dogs were 1. being properly managed or 2.were taken away and given to more responsible owners who ensured that. 3. Perhaps jailing the owners would have worked? Petitions had been circulated and given to the city of Niagara Falls and nothing was done. In this case perhaps the municipality should shoulder as much of the responsibility for the attack as the owners. Had it occurred 10-15 minutes earlier the street would have full of kids...I am sure someone could have ended up dying had the victim been a child or even a young adult.
I would like to see the stats on pitbull/dog attacks in Ontario...one that includes a character profile of the owners.....perhaps this would help in properly managing this problem....
By , at 10:17 PM, May 18, 2005
Great idea for the ban!!....owners are only drug dealers and bikers!....and the "stupid"....either having been born that way, or from solvent sniffing.... :)
By , at 9:16 AM, May 22, 2005
It is ridiculous to blame the dog's breed for attacks. Yes, pits bulls are strong and athletic...but that doesn't make them any more aggressive than any other dog naturally. It only makes those attacks that do occur by a pit bull to often be more damaging. I don't have one (I have an Alaskan Husky) but have work with several in a rescue situation. They have always been sweet and good natured dogs eager to please. I have had many more issues with Labs and have actually been attacked by one. Should we ban labs then? I would also reckon a guess that more people are bitten by small breed dogs such than pit bulls. But no one talks about that because they are cute and they don't do a great deal of damage.
The owners should be the ones held accountable for the dogs actions. It'll always come back to how they were raised, socialized and trained. Without proper training and a responsible owner, any dog can be dangerous.
By , at 7:00 AM, May 24, 2005
I can certainly understand people loving thier dogs, but I just witnessed a couple walking with thier Pit Bull, unleashed through the greenbelt behind my house. When I aksed him to please put the dog on its leash as per the bylaw, what I got hurled at me was *#&!"# go watch TV. When I insisted that as a Parent I was more concerned about the number of poeple and kids also walking out tonight. He just cursed at me and went on his way, his companion saying nothing . I think that banning out right maybe to harsh, but it is this male male owner view, were they seem to think they don't have to follow the bylaws. This type of owner disrgard or flippant behaviour is what gives the breed a bad name. I just want to ensure that my kids are not attacked. I would like to read comments from Pit Bulls owners on what they think about having the dogs on leash and muzzeled when walking thier dogs.
By , at 8:17 PM, May 26, 2005
yall are idiots
By , at 6:08 AM, May 27, 2005
you are idiots
By , at 6:09 AM, May 27, 2005
I think everyone is missing the bigger and more vital point.
I had to try and explain to my girlfriends little one why it is OK to hate and wipe out an entire race based on the actions of only a few, but only when it is about dogs.
I had to explain why she was shown frightening pictures of mass graves and told that six million jews were killed just for being jews, and that she needs to learn all about it, and remember, so it NEVER ever happens again! She told me the word for it is genicide.
I had to tell her that it is wrong when you do it to people and that it is just as wrong when you do it to her best (furry) friend. I told her that it is always wrong.
I had to tell her that some very bad people have come to be in charge of things like laws and that until they are gone, and now maybe longer, bad things will keep happening.
I would like to challenge you all to read things like this press release:
http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/news/2004/20041015-pitbulls-nr.asp
and replace words like dog and pit bull with klingon or black man, or any thing for that matter, and tell me if it doesn't sound like the worst kind of racism there is.
My father still remembers when he wasn't welcome anywhere with a "no jews, no colors" sign outside.
This ban makes racism all real again.
I just don't see how you can have it both ways.
So, please, show this post to as many people as you can because our furry freinds deserve all the help in getting this ban removed as they can get, and help with pressure from human rights groups is a great start.
What group of people would allow themselves to be told that they all needed to be found and sterilized and restrained in public just because of a few bad apples? Is it OK with you?
By , at 1:21 AM, May 29, 2005
I have assumed that we are all dog lovers here otherwise we wouldn't be looking at this web site, but surely there is a major differnece between wiping out 6 million jews and bannimg the breeding of a killer dog? After all jews are not known for pit fighting or ripping out a childs throat or savaging an old ladys cat or attacking a well behaved well trianed loving pet dog in the park for no reason other than its now instinctive vicious nature. Clearly I agree with the ban.
By , at 4:18 PM, May 31, 2005
Blame Jodi!
By , at 6:10 AM, June 01, 2005
I am another individual who agrees with the ban. Many of you pit-bull lovers haven't the slightest empathy for the victims who literally get mauled and savagely torn up because of one darn-aggressive breed. You guys cling stubbornly to the fact that they aren't dangerous, they were provoked, etc. whileas the actual situation shows a completely case where the pit bull launched at, for instance, an innocent passersby.
And to the person who said racism, do think a little and get your priorities straight. They are dogs afterall. Besides, there are so many more faithful and loving breeds to choose from.
By , at 2:23 PM, June 01, 2005
There are lots of other things that ae far more dangerous than pit-bulls.
SUV's kill many people each year. Large, unresponsive and gas guzzling, and often driven by people who gab on cellphones and chug lattes while driving. Most of these monstrosities never have to haul more than a passenger or two. Ban them.
Bicycles are responsable for hundreds of injuries in Ontario every year. Let's get on the ball and ban these deadly contraptions before more people are hurt.
If pit bulls have been bred to fight, this must also apply to people from countries with a long history of war. Thier immigration must be stopped.
Other things that Michael "Nanny" Bryant should ban - Cigarettes, booze, contact sports, coffee, fried foods (they almost tried a trans fat ban), sun exposure, electricity.
In fact, why doen't he just legislate that all citizens stay in padded rooms and only drink water and eat a paste of oatmel, carrots, spinach and soybeans.
By , at 8:44 PM, June 01, 2005
This is the best thing that the government has done.
Have any of you had a child that was bit by one of these monsters?
The scars are still there.
Pit Bulls and Rotweilers should be banned..
Most people follow the law but it may be those few that allowed their dogs to maul and permanently scar a human.
By , at 11:41 AM, June 02, 2005
Quoted from Anonymous who posted on June 01, 2005 at 8:44pm:
"Other things that Michael "Nanny" Bryant should ban - Cigarettes, booze, contact sports, coffee, fried foods (they almost tried a trans fat ban), sun exposure, electricity."
Except for the fact that everything you stated is self-inflicted. An individual either chooses/or chooses not to take the path on all of the above. But I don't think any individual (including yourself) would want to be shredded up by a blood-thirsty pit bull, become permanently disfigured, or even dead for that matter.
"Bicycles are responsable for hundreds of injuries in Ontario every year. Let's get on the ball and ban these deadly contraptions before more people are hurt."
For Christ's sake, how can you even attempt
to compare minor injuries caused
by a bicycle as opposed to having your life torn apart because of some damn vicious breed that shouldn't even be around in the first place?
You are trying to argue and make points out of the most ridiculous injuries and lifestyles that come along with human life.
By , at 5:06 PM, June 03, 2005
Ok you sick Pitbull owners, Have your dogs. Here is the solution, 1. Register all Pitbulls, 2. all pitbull owners should have a million dollar insureance policy (only for Non-family Memebers) and a $20,000 fine for first time offense for them getting out... $50,000 thereafter. Your kids can get Killed, but the problem would be solved for me...
By , at 8:36 AM, June 06, 2005
Why can't owners be held responsible? If you own or plan to own a dog you should be required to take the necessary steps/precautions. Your dog should take obedience classes, be properly socialized with all walks of life (children, elderly, men, women, dogs & cats).
Some people tend to get dogs (pitbulls, rottwheilers etc..) for the wrong reasons like status, protection etc..
You should also do research before obtaining a dog as many dogs have been overbred which leads to problems.
The media hasn't helped either.. They try and scare the public - it makes for a good story.
Again why can't owners of these dogs be responsible and punished for these incidents. Don't punish the breed!
By , at 9:19 AM, June 06, 2005
The sad thing is that banning pitbulls is the only way to force compliance... they are filling up the humane society's and city pounds by the dozens... we can't expect the stupid people that buy the dogs for intimidation purposes to stop breeding them, but banning them outright will save hundreds of these dogs from being destroyed in the future.
By , at 9:21 AM, June 07, 2005
It's really too bad that Canadians feel the necessity to impose a blanketed ban on all "Pit Bull" breeds. On one hand there is talk of legalizing marijuana, but because of bad owners pit bulls have to be euthanized. I own a female American Staffordshire Terrier and she is the sweetest dog I have ever been around. I do spend tons of time training, and socializing her. That is what all dog owners need to do, regardless of breed. There is a responsibility to owning a dog, any dog. This irrisponsibitity is what the owners should face up to in the event of an incident caused by their neglect/negligence in the form of legal action by the province.
By , at 3:18 PM, June 07, 2005
PIT BULLS ARE TICKING TIME BOMBS. THEY ARE DANGEROUS, AND WE DON'T NEED THEM AROUND. PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW BAD THEY ARE, YES, MANY DOGS CAN ATTACK, BUT NOT AS BAD AS PIT BULLS. LAST YEAR, MY DOG AND I WERE OUT FOR A WALK. A PIT BULL JUMPED A FENCE AND ATTACKED ME AND MY DOG. THE PIT BULL JUMPED ONTO MY DOG'S BACK AND SUNK HIS JAWS(AND LOCKED) INTO MY DOG'S SHOULDERS. MY DOG SLOWLY DIED 5 DAYS LATER FROM HIS WOUNDS.
By , at 11:58 AM, June 08, 2005
The sad fact is is that there are way too many irresponsible dog owners who don't give a damn about what kind of safety measures should be taken or who could care less about training their dogs (or pit bulls which are so much more prone to aggressive behaviour). What else would the government do if attacks of such magnitude are occuring on a frequent basis by one specific breed?
By , at 1:16 PM, June 08, 2005
In my opinion, the law should have been to make people get licences to get a pitbull. you can usually tell which people are going to train their dogs to be harmul. I have a pitbull, he has neer harmed anything in his life. the most he can do is lick someone to death. if people were to do their research, as i have, they would know, pitbulls are one of the most social dogs. they love people and affection. the only way a pitbull would turn violent is if they are trained to do so, or if they are mistreated. Any bread of animal can be violent. for that fact, anything, or anyone has the potencial to be violent. if people or animals are mistreated, they become agressive. What is the government going to do? slowly ban everything in life? The whole law doesn't make any sense. And now, when i walk my pitbull down the street, my dog gets looked at like a murderer, when he has never harmed anything in his life. is it fair for everyone to look so badly at an animal who has done nothing to deserve to be treated the way he is when i walk him down the street.
By Mason, at 2:11 PM, June 09, 2005
You all are again missing the point.
If you ban pit bulls, you have to ban ALL large breeds. It is only fair.
As for the difference between wiping out all jews as conpaired to all pit bulls, you are right. Jews are not known for violence, but BLACKS are!
Blacks are totally the pit bulls of the human race. Have YOU ever been attacked by one? Those scars are real too.
Should we ban colors from being in public unrestrained, and chop there reproductive organs out to prevent them from spreading?
And, do more pit bulls attack each your than blacks? Absolutely not.
Blacks are a danger, plain and simple. They damage everything they come into contact with.
Just turn on BET to see what they are all about.
And it is that clean cut. You don't see that kind of violent rage from other cultures. They all seem to blend into a city nicely. But blacks?
So, lets hear it. What makes it ok to ban pit bulls, but not the far bigger threat, the Blacks?
By , at 7:53 PM, June 09, 2005
Anonymous, I agree with you 100% on your views in regards to blacks.
However, blacks can still COMMUNICATE whereas pit bulls (or dogs) can't. Firstly, there are many more blacks than there are pit bulls. Second, quite a few who hold high-profile jobs. It would get everything severely messed up if we were to strip those people of their jobs.
Like I said before, dogs are afterall just that, DOGS.
And you have to take into account the safety of humans before any other animal.
To answer your question, what makes it ok. to ban pit bulls is that they were created by man,
and with their above-average aggressive behaviour are nowhere needed in our cities to begin with.
How many other breeds do you know of besides the pit bull that can literally maul up a kid so badly that they become horribly unrecognizable?
Blacks on the other hand were still created by God and have had long established roots in Africa and Australia for thousands of years.
By , at 7:08 AM, June 11, 2005
"Anonymous, I agree with you 100% on your views in regards to blacks."
Apologies for re-posting but to clear one thing up, I'd like to correct that to: Agreeing with you to some extent.
By , at 7:19 AM, June 11, 2005
Excuse me...but this site is supposed to be devoted to information relating to dogs isn't it? To the cement head and latrine slime individuals who have selfishly used this site to expound their narrow minded, racist, hatred filled rhetoric about black and other races in general...get a life...remember the blacks were brought to North America as slaves and treated as second class citizens ever since...it is no wonder they risen up the way they have to escape the oppression directed there way...find some other site that would appreciate your views more, not this one!
By , at 4:23 PM, June 11, 2005
Can we simply ban the idiots who misstreat and create "problem dogs" rather than try and use a blanket ban on all dogs of a type?
Any creature, be it dog, human or anything else should be treated as an individual case, it's own record being what is held agaisnt it.
Is there any number on how many pit bulls have not attacked humans? No, of course not. People are far more interested in creating and using fear.
A dog attacks a person, the law should come down on the owner and the dog. The Dog must be contained, and the owner is required to make reperations to the victim. If it becomes a repeated thing, then the dog, sadly must be destroyed, and the owner should be banned from owning other animals.
While not all dogs that become agressive are misstreated sometimes it comes about as an underlying enviromental problem, or simply it is a attitude problem with the individual, rather than the breed.
It doesn't matter what kind of dog it is. I've had a german shepard who was put down because it started to have agressive tendancies. This is something a responsible owner should do, to protect others.
By , at 12:45 AM, June 13, 2005
I have been on both sides of this issue. Many years ago I had a family pet (sheltie cross) and she was attacked in front of our home by a pit bull, at that time i wanted to ban these dogs.I have many years experience with animals including working with many animal rescue agencies. Four years ago we came upon a puppy that was from a bad home and knew if we let her return to it she would end up dead or worse for fighting or overbreeding. We were hesitant at first because she was a considered a "pit bull bred" she is a Staffordshire. We took it upon ourselves, for the good of the dog & our family to go out and get educated about this breed. There is alot of resources, library, internet, other owners, breeders. We wanted to know what to expect from the dog as well as what the dog expected of us eg. some dogs need more attention and exercise than others in order to not get bored or destructive. I have never been so impressed with a dog as I am with my dog, and I have owned many. I feel that banning these dogs is just a quick answer for the government to do to look like they are doing something constructive. They should hold the owners responsible. I was once asked that if, God forbid, my dog were ever to hurt anyone would i be willing to take the punishment. Absolutely! My dog, my responsibility. If the government would enact this law perhaps you would have less idiots getting a dog that they would actually have to take responsibility for instead of having it as a trophy piece. Just a small note in all my experiences with dogs I have been bitten by more "small, cute 'gentle' dogs" than i have by the bigger ones. The cute little dogs just don't make the media criteria of "if it bleeds, it leads".
By , at 5:25 PM, June 13, 2005
All of you against the ban keep protecting yourselves with the same lame and ostensible excuse over and over again.
"It's the irresponsible owners."
Take a look amongst yourselves and you will find that three quarters of pit bull owners don't take a the necessary training and responsibility for their violent- prone dog anyway, so why allow pit bulls who are the most capable of mauling ANY individual up, roam our society t-o BEGIN with?
Settle for another dog that doesn't possess those aggressive traits. And yeah of course, other dogs attack too, but not in the magnitude pit bulls do.
Irresponsible owners have a LOT to do with it, I know, but (along with many) I still feel that that just isn't enough when you hear of those horrifying attacks.
By , at 10:14 AM, June 14, 2005
Igrew up with pitbulls, well staffordshire bulls terriers and bull terriers to be exact. Not once did my dogs attack any member of our family, any other person or any other dog for that matter. They were the gentilest dogs I've ever owned. So for all the uneducated, there is a breed of pitbull, its the American Pitbull, a pure breed of its own. My dogs were not pitbulls, yet they were still on the choping list of the dogs banned. This is a complete outrage! It is clearly the breeder or owners fault that the dogs are agressive, seeing how my dogs were as tame as some sissy poodles.
By , at 1:14 PM, June 15, 2005
Leona McGinnis,
Hun-e U know what?This ban is nice huh?Beautiful ban,coz it has done some good,I know alot of people here will agree,IT'S IDENTIFIED A WHOLE LOT OF IGNORANT FOLKS LIKE YOURSELF!U people need to realise that anything U set Your mind on will be how U think,U find out more about the Breed and dont just listen to Single Celled Media Crap.Have U seen A kid's scar from a car crash.ban cars,use trains,have u seen an abused Wife,ban husbands,have u seen a kid scratched by an angry cat,ban cats,I've seen A labrador scar a kid so let's ban labradors.Get a Life women.Ban everything.Pitbulls are the most targetted breed,U hate them coz U too scared to own one and get to know them.BITE ME!!!!All U Wanksters with half a brain that want pits banned!
By , at 7:13 AM, June 16, 2005
Pit bulls are as much as fault as their owners. They brought this to themselves; stop blaming anybody else.
By , at 12:25 PM, June 18, 2005
everyone who hates pitbulls is a bitch... it is not the dogs fault it is the owners. I myself have a few ptbulls. i live in Kansas City, Missouri and in the state of Kansas they try to ban pitbulls. But we ain't gonna let it go down like that. So all of you bitches can celebrate your countries ban and what not but I love my dog and my dof loves me.
By , at 9:05 AM, June 23, 2005
Some dictators in the past tried to eliminate/EXTERMINATE selectively some humans too.
Are we getting back there through the back door? CONTROLING WHO CAN LIVE AND WHO CAN NOT……………….? Introduction of THIS by law is not democratic.
By , at 9:25 AM, June 23, 2005
Here in the U.S. there has been a few states/cities that have banned pitbulls. I live in Ct, a state fortunately, that this ridiculous ban has not been issued. I own three Amstaffs (which seem to fall into the "pitbull" category).Two of my sweeties I rescued from abusive homes. My other one I've had since he was 8 wks. old.I'll never own a different breed of dog. The affection and love that my three dogs show to everyone they come in contact with is absolutely outstanding.
About a year ago,here in Ct, there was a dog attack. NOT by a pitbull, but by a golden retriever. A family pet that bit the face of his 8 year old master. The child needed several stitches. The dog was taken from his family and kept at the local pound. The family recieved support from all over the state in their plight to save their dog (including mine). My point here is if this had been a pitbull attack the dog would have been destroyed.There would have not been an outpouring of support to save a pitbull. What's wrong with this picture? By the way, the family had the golden returned to them about 2 months ago.
By meg, at 6:40 AM, June 26, 2005
To show how wonderful the breed can be I made my two pits registered Therapy Dogs. They visit Nursing homes and childrens hospitals and when asked what kind of dogs they are I proudly say Pit Bulls. People are always shocked that they are so wonderful. I had only a few people who were hesitant at first, but quickley changed their minds after a few minutes of watching interact with the kids and elderly people. One handicapped adult use to hit my dog on occasion and the dogs just looked at her to say "That's ok do it again" and would wag her tail. Like all of you have been saying It's ALWAYS the owner not the dog. People are too lazy or ignorant to train.
By , at 8:15 AM, June 26, 2005
All I can do is laugh at all the ignorance. Some idiot made a comment about how 99.9% of dog attacks are pit bulls. Really? Can you even identify an actual pit bull? Do you think the idiots who report the news can identify a pit bull? If you'd like the answer to that - it is NO. A good friend of mine is a CTV News reporter. She has admitted to me that they often don't know the actual breed of a dog who has attacked - but they call it a "pit bull" because it's good press and gullible, ignorant people such as yourselves actually believe everything they hear! Which reminds me of a time I was watching the news several months ago and they were reporting a "pit bull" attack, meanwhile they were showing a Rottweiler. Hmmmm, anyone feeling even a bit stupid for beleiving everything they hear?? Another comment about pit bulls being ticking time bombs - are you kidding me? Where do you get this information from? The Attorney General? Who only cares about quick fixes to shut people like you up! Do your research before you are going to open your big mouth and make it sound like you have half a clue what you are even talking about! Labs bite more often then pitties. Get a clue you gullible ignorant people! Of course those of us who disagree with the ban care about the people who have been attacked by pit bulls (if only anyone could be sure it actually was one), but instead of making matters worse by killing millions of innocent dogs we are more concerned with a REAL solution to the problem not a quick fix! Ignorant people should be banned from having opinions and opening their mouths!
By , at 11:25 PM, June 27, 2005
Ashley, while there are some true facts pertaining to the falsifiying of stories from time to time by the media you definitely seem to be turning a 'blind eye' to the magnitude of which these pit bulls attacked all the same.
These are not just simple bites that were caused where a dog nibs a persons finger or which only a few stitches or a bandaid are required. We are talking about the human body violently being thrown around and torn apart with flesh and guts flying everywhere partly because of the jawlock the pitbull has, and partly because of it's muscular build-up and powerful strength. Jack russels, akitas, Cane corsos, labs, beagles, daschunds, Shi Tzus (you name it) come nowhere near to doing the excruciating amount of damage a pit bull can in such short time. Sure, we need a REAL solution to the problem but if the general public are fed up with these attacks and this particular breed, how else would you expect the government to act? In the long run, we are saving many more pit bulls from euthanized.
However, I would actually evenly come down hard on ALL dog owners and strictly enforce a leash, muzzling, neutering and training - no matter what breed of dog.
Still though, it's the pit bull owners who brought this to themselves by acting negligent, and obtaining those aggressive dogs by nature - not the rest of us.
By , at 4:54 PM, June 29, 2005
Once again, you are mistaken. Human bodies being tossed around while blood and guts are flying everywhere?? Damn, you watch far too many movies. And as for "lock jaw", if once again someone had done their research before speaking (or writing in this case) you would be well aware that this is a myth! Thanks for your ignorance and for helping all the other gullible people to believe the lockjaw myth!
By , at 6:54 PM, June 30, 2005
Well Ashley, for one - search the Internet, and type in "pit bull" if you are so adamantly onto the research aspect of it.
NOT pit bull attacks, or 'I hate pit bulls' or anything of that sort, just those two words. Then go to 'News Results' if for instance, you use Google and see how many articles are gonna pop up in front of you regarding pit bull attacks. After you've done that type in another dog breed and see what comes up. I can admit I have my weak spots but I can certainly see that you are only looking at this from one point of view and one point of view only. Like I stated earlier I do not support BSL, I'd rather enforce strong leash, muzzle and training on ALL dogs - regardless of breed. However, historically and generally speaking pit bulls are massive, strong dogs that have been specifically BRED for aggression and fighting which is NOT a myth, but a fact. Hence, if that's a myth like you claim, then why do we have breed differences comprised of different characteristics and traits? Even veterinarians and breeders have admitted to it. If you calling me ignorant and gullible is the best you can come up with for the second time while ignoring the rest of the contents from the earlier post - then I have to say you're pretty damn incapable of defending pit bulls and your views.
By , at 6:16 AM, July 01, 2005
If I googled "Pits bulls" and believed everything I read then I would be as ignorant as you. Instead my research comes from legitimate books, breeders and the like. I did not say pit bulls weren't bred for fighting (although that was over 100 years ago), I simply said that pitties having lockjaw is a myth. I'm not sure why you are coming back at me claiming I said things that I didn't. I am confident in being able to defend my point on pit bulls without claiming people have said things that they haven't (unlike yourself). And as for me not addressing the other points in your first posting - it's because they weren't of importance to me. Why are you getting so personal on this matter? It's clear that you have no first hand pit bull knowledge and I am simply trying to clear up with myths so that people are better informed.
By , at 12:23 PM, July 01, 2005
I am not trying to sway your opinion as you are perfectly entitled to it. However books, articles, magazines and many who breed and work with dogs have also endorsed the fact that pit bulls are more dangerous than any other dog breed. They cling to the victim and don't let go. That's why they're the controversial focal point right now not just in Ontario but in a couple of states as well where they want them banned. You seemed to drone on quite a bit with your so-called-people-being-ignorant, gullible tirade which makes it quite apparent that you aren't taking this issue on a light level either. I've never owned a pit bull myself and I would never w-a-n-t to, but there's certainly enough evidence (whether media or not) to prove that pit bulls are high-maintenance dogs which require all the extra attention to keep them somewhat under control - as opposed to other breeds which are so much more loyal and lovable anyway.
So Ashley, don't think I'm trying to swallow you, and no need to worry I'm not posting any longer or coming back to this forum, but as a final note I'm glad that the majority have come to realize that pit bulls are far too dangerous in our crowding urban areas and that something is done about it. And as you may have guessed, unlike many pit-bull-loving (and often negligent)retards I actually understand and feel empathy towards the victims who went through the severe trauma.
Hopefully we both learnt from one another on this important issue.
Good day to you.
By , at 2:18 PM, July 01, 2005
2 throw in my cents worth, both of u make out fair points. from personal experience tho i'd have to side more with the latter. they are unpredictable.
By , at 2:40 PM, July 01, 2005
Wow! It's hard to believe that the "lock-jaw" myth is still out there.
We brought this on ourselves, fellow pit-bull-type-breed-lovers. Looks like we are spending too much time doting on our own dogs and not enough time advocating for the breed(s)and educating the public.
We should consider this legislation a "wake-up call".
By , at 6:56 PM, July 03, 2005
Hats off to ASHLEY!
All U Pit Bull lovers,I think U guys should spend more time educating all these numb nuts about Our Adorable Breed.Most Of these Easily convinced ,half brained People dont even know what a Pit looks like, every dog attack turns out to be a Pitbull attack all bold and Shyt,but U Tossers cant identify a Pitbull can You.The Flying Blood and body parts,Person why u wasting time posting ur 2c comments go write a book with your imaginative mind!!!A pitbull has higher tolerance to pain which makes them less human-aggressive.But why waste time with "intelligent people" who know shyt about dogs,u guys think a pit has a lock jaw,lemme guess and U have Steel Balls???
By , at 12:40 PM, July 04, 2005
I own a pitbull and she is a wonderful dog...loves everyone, especially children. It's sad that many are raised in an aggressive manner, in turn hurting innocent people. Not all pitbulls are this way. Before we got Lucy (our red-nosed pitbull) we had Baby for 14 years who was the wimpiest, most loving dog I've ever seen. She never hurt a fly. I do believe you have to be a responsible owner when you decide to have a pitbull. They definately aren't for everyone but they are wonderful dogs when raised in a good, loving environment. And not everyone that owns them sells drugs or trains them to be aggressive, what a silly remark. Sounds like something a 14 year old would say or atleast the mentality of one.
By , at 8:17 PM, July 05, 2005
Hats off to the Ontario Gov't. I am in total agreement with the ban. Stiffer penalties for the owner is not the answer. After the dog attackes a child its kind of to late to charge the owner, the damage is already done. I would rather be attacked by any other dog then a pitbull. At least I know I will have a chance.
By , at 5:15 AM, July 07, 2005
how do you detrmine what is a pit bull?? there are so many different variations, so many different breed mixes. Are they gonna ban purebreads only?? or mixes as well?
I own two dogs, one is a 100 pound dobbie/rottie cross the other 50 pound husky, collie, heeler mix. my dobbie wouldnt hurt a fly while the other one cant wait to get into a fight. i love my dogs, never mistreated them, never abused them, provided all the proper training for them. what im trying to say is you cant be breed specific on this issue. i agree that owners are abotut 80% to blame but there are also 20% of dogs that will just have that animal instinct. People have to identify those pups and take appropriate safety measures if they want to raise them. This ban is the dumbest thing I have ever heard off. Why dont we eliminate all the cougars and bears and snakes and so on.....
By , at 7:09 PM, July 12, 2005
If we were to look at a statistic and see how many pit bulls there are v/s how many have bitten people, I'm sure it would be the same as it would if you applied the same equation to other large breeds. And I'm also equally sure that smaller dogs would have the same stats, only it's not often as reported (or hyped up) b/c the damage isn't as large. You can't punish a "breed" for a) the actions of a few of its brethren, b) mis-representation in the media, c) it's size and d) poor training and care-giving by owners. You also can't punish the owners of dogs who haven't harmed people and who take care and love their pet. Legislation making it more difficult to acquire any dog and creating more stringent laws on its registering and training is a solution to fit the problem long term. It will also serve to protect the quality of life for the animal, who gets no choice in who it lives with or where it goes.
By , at 2:25 PM, July 20, 2005
I would just like to say that I think they should just get rid of the beasts all together! My Peek and I were attacked by a pitbull monday night, I almost lost my leg and my dog. It was so horrifing I was in my neighborhood 9 pm screaming at the top of my lungs for help...I guess I always thought you know somone would help me If I needed it. I was sadly mistaken. Its not like I live in a bad part of town I have great neighbors, however at night everyone locks up thier windows like fort knox. I just wanted to say I have seen nothing but neglagent pitbull owners and bad dogs, I beleive all of those BEASTS should be put down. Anyone can beg the differ, when you get attacked you'll change your mind.
By , at 5:59 AM, July 21, 2005
holy F _ _ K people are retarded on this site. The People with bogus comments against pitbulls should be put to sleep. Oh cry you got bit bet you it wasnt a bully breed probably a lab or shepard mix
goodnight
By , at 5:03 PM, July 21, 2005
Anyone who supports this law will be killing their own dog. Bill 132 doesn't just unfairly target pit bulls and their responsible owners, but also any dog deemed "menacing." Just for scaring a child, it could be taken away and killed.
So Ontario dog owners? Get your butts in gear and fight this law if you care about your dog.
By Miss Havenlander, at 2:15 PM, July 22, 2005
Wow, lot's of passion exhibited on this site, both in favour of pitbulls and in favour of their slaughter. I think that name calling isn't going to solve anything and people have their own opinions and will not change them even when faced with the opinions of others as well as hard facts.
I do own a pitbull cross. I am a teacher, a community volunteer and a responsible pet owner, regardless of the breed of dog I have. I chose her not because of her breed but because at the shelter she was the quietest,friendliest, cutest and lonliest looking dog there. She is a great companion and a happy go lucky dog, but that is just it, she is a dog. I do not let her run free in the streets, or keep her outside for hours upon end with little attention. She is well socialized, well trained but can be a bit hyper, so I am aware of that and do not put her or others in situations that might cause anxiety - The same thing I would do with any other type of dog!
Those who believe in the ban, you will likely not change your opinion and I feel sorry that some people are closed minded and believe everything they hear and read. Those who've been attacked, my heart goes out to you, that would be a really scary experience, regardless of what type of dog attacked. I was attacked as a child by a Doberman.
I just wish that the Micheal Bryant was not such a fear-monger and I'm afraid that this ban gives people a false sense of security.... all those dogs will be made examples of and yet, I firmly believe that dog attacks will continue, resulting in a new 'scary' breed put on the block ready for banning. It's just so sad.
By , at 10:28 AM, July 26, 2005
I wish I could get my pitbull to attack the schmucks who passed this law. Unfortunently, all she would do is lick you to death.
My friend does pit bull rescue and I have seem hundreds of his dogs through the years. Not one of them, despite the horrible torture they have been put through before arriving at his facility, have shown the slightest bit of aggression.
By , at 8:58 PM, July 27, 2005
This is crap! You people are sitting here fighting on a stupid website! I came on here to see if people would help these poor animals! I am 16 and trying to start a petition to stop the bans! My whole life I have always had a pit. They have never harmed me in anyway. I have however gone to the hospital for cat scratch fever 3 times. They should ban cats for giving people diseases! It is impossible to get rid of all DOG attacks. Just getting rid of one breed is stupid! They are not to blame. In my research for my petition I have noticed that Everytime I hear or read about a dog-attack or fight, humans are always caught with dog training devices. If you take a poodle and shove it in a cage for its whole life only to come out to run and carry weights, Would you Like PEOPLE?!?! I sure as hell wouldn't! Try to see it from their view! Yeah "they were bred to be mean" BLAH! Labs were bred to fetch yet mine just lays around and sleeps! I haven't TRAINED it to do what it was bred for so it won't do it! Same with Pits! Even if you hate the bred think of what you are doing to innocent children like me and my 7 year old brother by taking away our loved pets! It is like losing a sibling or a child! It hurts! SO please stop arguing on here and help protect these creatures. If not for them for the little kids out there that have crappy lives and only have their dogs to be happy for! Thanks!
By Sara, at 9:06 AM, July 28, 2005
You people that think this ban is good are the most ignorant, misinformed people ever. 19 of 20 pits have good temperment compared to 3 of 4 in dogs overall. Since most of you won't know math, the average is higher for pits. They are one of the best behaved dogs in the world but the media has blown things out of proportion. It's the same principle as murder. It's gone down, but media coverage is up 600%. The fact is, pitbulls are safe and this ban is the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen
By , at 2:54 PM, July 29, 2005
OH WHY DONT ALL YOU WHINY PEOPLE BE QUIET WITH ALL THE STUPID REMARKS LIKE "IM GLAD THEY BANNED PITBULLS, THEY ARE KILLING PEOPLE" .WOW, WHAT KIND OF CLOSR MINDED WORLD DO WE LIVE IN??? SO WHEN ARE THEY GONNA PROPOSE TO BAN ROTTWEILLERS OR DALMATIONS(BOTH ARE AGRESSIVE DOGS). IM AM SORRY BUTYOU CANT STERIO TYPE,,ISISNT THAT WHAT WE AS PEOPLE ARE TAUGHT NOT TO DO, STERIOTYPE? AND WEVE GOT AN IDOT LIKE MICHEAL BRYANT OR WHATEVR HIS NAME IS, SAYING WE WILL ALL BE SAFER,,,WHAT DID THEY JUST FIND A CURE FOR A DISEASE OR SOMETHING, GET REAL, THEYRE WILL ALWAYS BE VISCOUS DOGS OF ANY KINDS DUE TO ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WHETHER IT BE ABUSE, ETC. YOU CANNOT ERASE THIS BEAUTIFUL BREED OF DOG, AND IM LUCKY TO OWN 2 OF THEM AND I LAUGH AT PEOPLE WHEN THEY GIVE ME DIRTY LOOKS OUTSIDE WHILE I AM WALKING THEM, THEY ARE THE UN EDUCATED ONES
By , at 12:26 AM, August 02, 2005
i agree with all of u guys(even though i dont own a pit bull or dog)that micheal wutever his name is being stupid bout banning this breed.they should be focusing on the people who own any dog that have been in any attack, and if im correct kids are the ones involved in most attacks. trust me most kids piss off and tease the really big dogs. my uncle had a rottweiler that had to be atleast a 125 pounds, and a lott of kids pissed him off and could of mauled them like nothing. also i heard that most dogs attacks happens near or on the owners home. Some kids and people just go up to pet them even though they have no business to be their. People and the media should relize that dogs are naturally territoril(forgive my spellin).
By , at 11:29 AM, August 12, 2005
There are no bad dogs, only bad dog owners. Actually, dogs much like people, sometimes turn out bad no matter what you do. This is mainly due to inbreeding or simply bad genetics. What do we do with those people? We pay for them to live in cells. What do we do with those dogs? We euthanize them. What do we do with people who are terminally ill? We make them suffer through til the end. What do we do with dogs? We euthanize them, because it's the "humane" thing to do.
If it's so "Humane" then why can't a HUMAN legally accept this solution? You tell me who the monster here is? The world has bigger things to worry about than to waste time bickering about dog breeds with bad reputations due to the exploitation MANKIND has given these breeds. People are the monsters living in a fantasy world where they are superior being on their property, the entire Earth, and they so self righteously tread upon every other living thing and justify it as if it were all meant to be taken for granted.
Someone comes after my dog, the last thing they have to worry about is my dog, they'll have to pry her from my dead hands. This isn't Nazi Germany and I'm not being seperated by force from my loved ones.
By Dale Tyler, at 8:53 PM, August 24, 2005
In response to:
I am another individual who agrees with the ban. Many of you pit-bull lovers haven't the slightest empathy for the victims who literally get mauled and savagely torn up because of one darn-aggressive breed.
How can you possibly speak for other people and what they feel?
I own a pitbull. I don't support a breed specific ban but do support stiffer penalties and a law that would stop people proven to be unkind to their dogs from EVER owning another. As for all the bickering going on here it is not helping anyone. I don't usually post on these things but I want to let all of the people that have been attacked (no matter what breed it was) know that I feel terribly for you and hope that your experiences haven't hurt your love of dogs in general. I also want to let the people that are facing losing their beloved pets know that I feel for you as well becuase I am still trying to figure out how to tell my kids ( 4, 6, 8) that the dogs they have spent ALL their lives with may soon be gone! It is a terrible state of affairs when our so called democratic government punishes the masses because of a few.
By , at 10:27 PM, August 25, 2005
Max, my black and white Pitbull is going to be put down today. He is 3.5 years old. He is the friendliest dog I have ever owned. He has never bitten or killed anything. He loves all people and is a useless watchdog. However, I cannot risk a $10 000 fine or 6 months in jail. I feel this law has similarities to the Salem which hunts. If it looks like a Pitbull ban it! Max has been bitten by cats and rackoons but never did bite in return or in defense.
But, in deference to our law makers and in sympathy with victims of Pitbull attacks, I think painless death is better than castration, muzzle, and leash for a dog used to complete freedom. Such treatment would change his disposition negatively.
Good-bye Max!
By , at 7:26 AM, August 29, 2005
Max, my black and white Pitbull is going to be put down today. He is 3.5 years old. He is the friendliest dog I have ever owned. He has never bitten or killed anything. He loves all people and is a useless watchdog. However, I cannot risk a $10 000 fine or 6 months in jail. I feel this law has similarities to the Salem which hunts. If it looks like a Pitbull ban it! Max has been bitten by cats and rackoons but never did bite in return or in defense.
But, in deference to our law makers and in sympathy with victims of Pitbull attacks, I think painless death is better than castration, muzzle, and leash for a dog used to complete freedom. Such treatment would change his disposition negatively.
Good-bye Max!
By , at 7:27 AM, August 29, 2005
If one nurtures a dog's viscious instinct, he/she should be charged with assault with a lethal weapon if said dog attacks, in the presence of the owner or otherwise.
That being said, I'd love to know the typical profile of a pit bull owner. Chances are, ther