46 Comments:

• It's not so much that the Chinese government are over-reacting on this, it's more of that dogs have increased in rural areas as pets and that China does not have enough rabies vaccinations or, if they did, they don't make it mandatory that all dogs need one. Out of the thousand of dogs that populate China, only 3% received rabies vaccinations this year. Instead of the slaughter, the Chinese government should import vaccinations. It might cost more but the people would not be as upset over random people beating their dogs to death.

  By  RJ, at 1:15 PM, August 04, 2006  

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• You can argue that the Chinese government doesn't have enough rabies vaccine, and could also argue that they don't police their citizens well enough. HOWEVER, that government has total authority to do so, yet it failed.
  
  Contrast that with the USA, where we put total faith in citizens to vaccinate their dogs and get them licensed, and we don't have a problem with rabies.
  
  Kinda throws a wrench into the "we need more dog laws" movement.

  By  Steve, at 8:45 PM, August 04, 2006  

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• Actually, it is required in some states for dogs and cats to be vaccinated against rabies. Texas is a good example. So we don't put total faith in the people to have the animals vaccinated since areas have laws requiring it. Even then, pregnant dogs cannot be vaccinated because it could mess up the puppies.
  
  To be fair, it seems the people can't look up to the central government to do something about this and they take matters into their own hands. The Chinese government isn't in control of these areas anymore; the regional and the local governments are. To say that the Chinese government is at fault is only half true since they haven't been able to do anything about it. However, the local governments have more hold on the population, making them responsible for the killings. In its own way, it's like the U.S. If one state passes a law that enacts a killing of a certain dog breed, the entire country looks bad. But the country can't do anything about that one law because that's a state law, not a federal one. The Chinese government will literally have to threaten the region with its army before they give this up. And that doesn't look good to the rest of the people dying from rabies. I doubt even enacting rabies vaccination laws will solve this problem as the people kill every dog even if it has been vaccinated. So unfortunately, the Chinese government can do very little at this point unless the areas passing dog slaughter laws agree to talk about a neogoiation (which can be highly unlikely).

  By  RJ, at 7:21 PM, August 05, 2006  

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• All dogs and cats in the US amust be rabies-vaccinated according to Federal law. States only have discretion over the type of vaccine used. China's central government does not get off easy on this one because they have no hold over their provinces. That view of their government practices holds no water--the central government exerts plenty of force whe itt wants to. The problem is China's growth rate. The central government is overwhelmed with progress in some sectors to the detriment of others. Emphasis on trade and economic growth has overshadowed basic domestic services. Rabies vaccines are cheap. Establishing an infrastructure to deliver them isn't. There's still no excuse for this brutality. I wrote a lot more about this on my site, Dolittler.com, if you want to check it out.

  By  Patty, at 7:38 AM, August 06, 2006  

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• STUPID PEOPLE OR STUPID GOVERNMENT? POOR DOGS.

  By  Anonymous, at 8:04 AM, August 06, 2006  

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• But RJ, in the USA, we trust people to abide by the law, when it comes to vaccinations. Nobody forces you to get your dog vaccinated, OR licensed.
  
  In China, their solution is that a large government, and controlled society, will solve all of mankind's problems. And yet, they have bigger problems.

  By  Steve, at 12:33 PM, August 06, 2006  

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  By  Sam Basso, at 10:26 PM, August 06, 2006  

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• China's biggest problem is a Communist system. A free press would have shamed these public officials, and free elections would have driven them out of office long ago. Here, you can't "take" property without due process, and compensation of the victims... and you can fight such takings in court. No way that can happen there right now. I have great hopes for a free China... always was fascinated with this country. How they treat dogs is a barometer of how they treat their people, too.
  
  This is why the animal rights wackos want dog owners to be classified as "guardians" instead of owners. Then, private property rights, and the Constitutional protections of property rights, are abolished... and the state can then come in and take your dog away
  
  China has no excuses, as far as I'm concerned. Just note what happens in a state where private property rights are ignored.

  By  Sam Basso, at 10:29 PM, August 06, 2006  

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• I am sure that if the Chinese Government believed that it was important to stop the brutality and provide rabies vaccination in those provinces, it would not hesitate to do so.
  
  Just to let you all know, the North Shore Animal League has started an online petition to China's Ambassador here in the US which has gathered almost 7,000 signatures since the weekend. Sign it and pass it on to everyone you know! The more voices the Chinese Government hears the better - there is no better way to communicate than making an ambassador outside China ashamed of his country and its actions against animals.
  
  Here is a link to the petition:
  http://ga4.org/campaign/china_petition?qp_source=doggienews

  By  JorinH, at 8:34 AM, August 08, 2006  

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• JorinH, are you saying that China is killing these dogs because it loves the brutality, and it loves the rabies?
  
  I don't think so. As I've stated, China is doing this because its socialist style government has failed. The idea behind socialism, is that greater control of people will solve more of Mankind's problems, including disease outbreaks.
  
  Yet in USA, where we have unprecedented individual freedom and liberty, we don't have a problem with rabies outbreaks. People naturally take responsibility by getting their dogs vaccinated and licensed, as well as reporting cases of dangerous dogs. They tend to do this even without police intervention.
  
  The dog killing in CHina is a product of a socialist-style government. You should be protesting socialism, bigger government, and bigger control.

  By  Steve, at 11:17 AM, August 08, 2006  

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• This is an absolutely appalling example of the lack of respect of life in China. They have no conscience for the murder of animals or children in China (women are allowed one child after that murder it, abort it, or abort it just don't raise it). I am sickened by the lack of civility in that country.

  By  Gina, at 1:46 PM, August 08, 2006  

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• I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A NEWS STORY WHERE THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF CHINA WERE CLUBBED TO DEATH, GROUND INTO HAMBURGER AND FED TO THE DOGS. THOSE UNCIVILIZED BASTARDS DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE LIKE HUMANS. ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA WILL NOT BE BOUGHT BY ME EVER AGAIN.

  By  Anonymous, at 3:22 PM, August 09, 2006  

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• To the people who are so appalled by this cruelty, tell me please, do you eat meat? Do you wear leather? Wool?
  
  Yes, I find it horrible what China is doing to these dogs, but I also find the hypocritical nature of many of the complainers to be equally horrible.
  
  And I'm glad that I chose to teach in Korea rather than China, since I DO have two dogs.

  By  Anonymous, at 4:36 PM, August 14, 2006  

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• OK, let's get this straight... eating meat has little to do with a.) taking private property without due process or compensation; b.) beating pet dogs to death.
  
  We don't eat pets. We do eat some domesticated and certain wild animals.
  
  You don't eat something you have bonded to, or have allowed to bond to you.
  
  We also don't allow animals to be beaten to death here, and we condemn it worldwide.
  
  You can't equate eating pets with eating other animals. There is a line crossed when an animal becomes a pet, and dogs are pets. It is wrong to eat companion animals, and anyone with a conscience knows this in their hearts.
  
  I’m not ashamed to say…
  
  I eat meat. Meat is good food. The human body is adapted to eat and digest meat. It is ethical to eat meat Most religions allow the eating of most kinds of meat.
  
  I eat other types of animal products. I eat honey, drink milk, and I love cheese.
  
  I wear and use animal products. I have no problem with having leather shoes or wallets, wool slacks, silk ties, or fur lined coats.
  
  I am against eating some types of animals. Some animals are not good for humans to eat. They are repulsive, or toxic, or prone to communicate disease. Thus, you shouldn’t hunt and eat rats, flies or cockroaches.
  
  I use animal products, including oil. Have you ever considered that the gasoline you put in your car comes partly from animal products? Why do you think they call them “fossil fuels”?! I have used products with bee’s wax, too.
  
  I am for hunting. Hunting not only helps to preserve species, by regulating the numbers and types of animals within a habitat, it provides people with edible food and useful fibers. I don’t believe in torturing animals to kill them, however. I think the kill should be as quick, clean and lethal as you can make it, while preserving as much of the edible parts as possible. I also believe you can and should enjoy yourself while hunting, while at the same time, respecting the lives you have taken. I am opposed to hunting animals for a small body part, and then discarding the remainder, such as some poachers do. Hunting has many social and environmental benefits, which I support.
  
  I am for ranching. When you have a lot of people to feed, it isn’t practical to have everyone hunting for their meals. So, we have domesticated certain types of animals, raise them as food, and eat them.
  
  I am against trophy hunting. I think it is wrong to hunt something, and then display it, or talk about it, SOLELY as a way of celebrating your trophy. I think that is against nature, and a waste of natural resources to kill things and then not eat or use them for more than a decoration. We are predators and food is prey, thus, it is natural and good to hunt and eat animals. However, there is something perverse in wanting to kill, for no other purpose than to boost your ego, and then tossing the meat and animal products away. I am not against killing animals to cull their numbers in order to balance the numbers and types of predators vs. prey in a given environment. And I'm not against displaying the trophies of your kills, provided you didn't waste the animal you killed.
  
  I am against hunting or killing any species into extinction… except maybe for some insects, viruses and bacteria. I don’t think we should be the agents of the destruction of our environment. I believe we should live in our environment, cultivate it, consume it, protect it, and let the overall forces of nature determine survival or extinction. So, I think there can be a balance between being a body consumer, and someone who protects their own territory, since all territorial animals survive by the vitality of, and availability of food within, their territory. Yet, I think it is OK to defend yourself from any species or individual that might kill off human individuals or groups That is also natural and moral.
  
  I am against eating companion animals. Humans have a natural aversion to eating one another. It is a built in defense mechanism. When we bond to an animal, we accept it into our pack as if it was another human. That is why we are repulsed by the eating of pet dogs, cats and horses. It is also why we can be troubled by eating any animal we find to be “cute and cuddly”, since those animals remind us of eating our young. It is also why the animal rights folks try to paint the eating of animals as if you are eating human-like creatures… to trigger your defensive mechanism against eating or harming your own species. Thus, they talk about the relative (inflated) intelligence of animals, how they feel pain, etc. It is to play on your instincts to not eat members of your own pack. This is their primary tactic. That is why you see certain types of movies coming from Hollywood which turn animals into people-like creatures... it is part of an animal rights agenda. Go and enjoy the movie, but don't be manipulated!
  
  It is natural and good to question whether you should kill and/ or eat any animal. Yet, there are moral and good reasons to use and consume animal products.
  
  It is important to have these kinds of concepts sorted out in your head and heart before you start taking political positions concerning animal welfare issues.

  By  Sam Basso, at 7:33 PM, August 14, 2006  

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• I likve in the Arkansas, USA. Arkansas DOES require all pets to have rabies shots, among other vaccinations.
  
  I moved here from Idaho. Idaho DOES NOT require rabies shots or a lot of the others required by law in other states. When I asked my vet if I should get my dog a shot anyway, he said, "Why? We don't have rabies here."
  
  My dog did not even need a flea collar in Idaho, but does in Arkansas.
  
  The reason: The climate.
  
  Perhaps, as there was not a large dog population in China previously, they did not realize that their climate was conducive to rabies, etc. And, therefore, they weren't prepared for the outbreak.

  By  Lynn, at 3:31 PM, August 18, 2006  

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• I think the lesson we, as Americans, could learn from the fiasco in China is responsibility! Pet owners need to take responsibility for the health and well being of their pets. It can't all be blamed on the government. Could something like this happen here? It already does on a smaller scale with breeds deemed dangerous.

  By  Therese, at 8:10 PM, August 18, 2006  

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• This is beyond owner responsibility. If you read the articles about this tragedy, they killed even those dogs that were vaccinated.

  By  Sam Basso, at 4:50 PM, August 19, 2006  

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• Next time you buy a pair of shoes, or wallet, that geniune leather label takes on a new thought.

  By  Anonymous, at 9:19 AM, August 20, 2006  

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• While no one wants to see any dogs lose their lives, why did this turn into a big anti-china rant? I don't care which country you think is "better." Just report on the dogs.

  By  Anonymous, at 3:21 PM, August 21, 2006  

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• It is time people took responsibility for the welfare of their own animals. As A veterinary nurse whilst I find this an outrage it should also be considered that we have vets for a reason. Unfortunately people do still see vets as money makers, which is in part true, but never do I hear the smae rants about plumbers.
  Back to the subject matter, if people were more educated on animal welfare then these situations wouldn't arise in the first place. Any country with the remotest chance of rabies should routinely vaccinate animals against it. It is a crying shame in these "educated, enlightened times" we still don't practise prevention is better than cure, and once again the animals suffer.Nothing is ever done until it threatens mankind then there is a huge knee jerk reaction usually against those that cannot defend themselves.

  By  Anonymous, at 4:34 AM, August 22, 2006  

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• If they sre killing the dogs, at least kill them in a humane way. That's the least they could do :/
  
  They are just unbelievable.

  By  Anonymous, at 11:24 PM, August 29, 2006  

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• just horrible.....i wish i can do something about it

  By  Anonymous, at 5:45 PM, September 02, 2006  

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• This goes further than horrible. It's evil put to a test.
  And to all who say "i wish i could do something about it and to help". Well - YOU CAN. I am a member of the NAVS and ADI. I will not go into detail - All i am asking you to do to help is to go on these websites and read the info. Please also dontate. God bless you all who helps.
  Websites:
  NAVS: www.navs.org
  ADI: www.ad-international.org
  
  Big Thanks :)

  By  Anonymous, at 7:30 AM, September 03, 2006  

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• I think its sick and disgusting how dogs are inhumanely treated by China and many asian countries. Horrible!

  By  Anonymous, at 11:02 PM, September 04, 2006  

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• The Chinese government has never had any respect for any sort of life, let alone animal life. Abortion is state sanctioned, with baby girls being the main victims, they have a delicacy where they cook kittens alive in a clay pot, this "dog cull" is no suprise.

  By  alienlovesong, at 2:27 PM, September 06, 2006  

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• I"m sorry, sam basso, but classifying animals as guardians rather than property helps protect them from abuse.
  
  Perhaps you have a problem with that, because you yourself see animals as something other than sentient living beings, which is what they are.
  
  What are you doing on a doggie news site if you're not interested in animal rights?

  By  Anonymous, at 2:31 PM, September 06, 2006  

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• It's also proven that most of the Crush videos come from China.
  
  China has no respect for anything but money.

  By  elektrared, at 2:32 PM, September 06, 2006  

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• I'm interested in animal rights. I want to stamp out animal rights. I am all for animal WELFARE. I am against animal rights. Animal rightists are wackos, and there is plenty of evidence to back that statement up. Animal rights is all about stamping out domesticated animals.
  
  Here is what the leading animal rights leaders have to say. If you agree with the following quote, then you are a fanatical wacko:
  
  "We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. . . One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding." Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP of Humane Society of the US, formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Animal People, May, 1993
  
  NOTE: (Wayne Pacelle’s initial training was as a PeTA activist. Today he heads HSUS under the guise of "legitimacy". It is the largest and most profitable of the animal Rightist lobbying organizations.
  
  So... how about it? One of the main legal strategies is to relabel dog ownership into dog guardianship. This eliminates your consitutional protections, and allows any law people want to be applied to animals.
  
  Yes, animals are capable of feelings. What does that have to do with this?
  
  And tell me, specifically, changing the definition of dog ownership to guardianship will prevent, or has prevented, animal abuse? And further, tell me how the extinction of the domestic dog is any kindness to the dog?
  
  Further, tell me, specifically, what animal welfare work YOU do. How many dogs have YOU rescued? How many hours do YOU put in working with dogs? I can account for hundreds and hundreds of hours every year. And I don't hide behind an "anonymous" when posting comments.
  
  Geez. You wouldn't think you had to explain this stuff.

  By  Sam Basso, at 6:21 AM, September 11, 2006  

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• I have seen and reach this news on another site and also sent an email to support the people who are trying to save the dogs in china.
  
  Dog Training Lessons

  By  silentsurfur, at 6:44 AM, September 12, 2006  

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• for a start dogs in china are treated WELL!! not by the gov or the people who sell them but the people who own them(the real people)dogs here are peoples second child!
  
  someone said that they KILL the second child!!! NO they dont you get a BIG fine for having more than one kid but thats more or less it nowdays!
  
  I have eaten dog! it was only ok but if you eat meat then you eat meat!thats like saying im a veggie but i eat fish!! if you ask a chinese person if they have ever eaten cat they would be shocked! cat is not eaten in most of china and most chinese people have never even heard of it!
  
  I would pay to see any of you rant about the chinese gov IN china! see how far that would get you!
  
  dont get me wrong it is not right of china to kill these dogs in the way they are but its CHINA!!! now 16 people have died! you may say its chinas fault!!
  
  How about the foot and mouth in britan do you know how many animals were killed then!! you will also find that there a lot of animal cruelty in the USA not done by the gov but the REAL people!

  By  alf, at 2:01 AM, September 14, 2006  

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• "I would pay to see any of you rant about the chinese gov IN china! see how far that would get you"
  
  And that is exactly the point, isn't it? When government power is such that they can do this to a dog, then that is a form of tyranny, and we should point that out and fight for change.
  
  Without constitutional private property protections, the government can do this to dogs.
  
  I don't think there is any legitimate excuse for this kind of thing, regardless of the country. It is wrong wherever it occurs. I have great hopes for China... but it has a long way to go to prove to me that it deserves no suspicion that it could revert back to its Maoist ways.

  By  Sam Basso, at 7:36 AM, September 14, 2006  

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• You say you want to fight for the change?? well get out there and do it! If any of the chinese citizens were to stand up and say something they would be locked up probably killed!
  
  China is a poor country and has to look for the cheepest option Still i agree that there are no legitimate excuses for beating dogs.
  
  China's priorities are a joke but they are growing fast and will soon be a super power on this earth. That could mean that they will have the opportunity to set things right and look out for the welfare of there people or they will just be able to poor all the money in to there military as the us is doing.

  By  alf, at 12:35 AM, September 16, 2006  

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• I think that is totally mean to the dogs. I wish the china people that kill those dogs, would get it through there think little skulls that dogs arent the only animals that get rabies! So why the dogs? What did they truely do to you?

  By  Anonymous, at 12:07 PM, September 21, 2006  

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  By  Anonymous, at 11:39 PM, September 26, 2006  

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• what do you considered as pets??? In other parts of the world people have different thoughts of whats a pet and whats not, so lets just gave the opinion instead of blame on the chinese government, i mean think about it! Theres 1.3 billion people in china. Its not like Unites States where theres cops every where, so just let it go. Theres nothing you can do until all the people in china start think about animal rights!~~~~~

  By  Anonymous, at 4:26 PM, October 08, 2006  

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• dear sir/madam:
  this is the representer of all the dog breeders within the whole China. we request for emergency help and adivse because recently the Chinese government is doing the massacre within the whole country.
  
  Chinese government decided to massacre dogs. from the govenment's point of view, breeding pets has defined as "evil practice", and dogs could bring up diseases to public,so the government is trying to stop citizens breeding dogs for either business purposes or entertainment purposes.
  
  
  
  the massacre has started few days ago, people sent out to reach every family.Also, medias have banned to present any programmes which related to breeding, even those Pet Forums have to close and dismiss. people can even talk about it as well. all information blocked, can not reach to outsider, luckly we are in New Zealand, we have the freedom of speech.
  
  
  as a chinese, we hope we can recieve willing help from all organizations around the world, and try to stop the massacre immediately.those dogs are innocent, cant not be killed for such senseless reasons.please save our dogs from this terrible disaster, we can not live without our freedom.what the chinese government is doing is against the human rights.
  
  
  condition:
  at the moment there is no any lindemnification law to protect pets; Vets are not up to certain standard and poor medication for any diseases. those facts become the reasons of the massacre,which we can not accept this excuse!
  
  please, give us advise and help, save our dogs, we can not guarantee the government only eassacre dogs, next time might be cats or other animals.
  
  we are looking forward to your response.

  By  Anonymous, at 7:53 AM, October 25, 2006  

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• I am a beijinger.In my city,the government are planning to kill the dogs who dont have families.And they dont allow people keep more than one dog (one dog only).so，many family have to abandon their dogs ,otherwise they have to pay a lot of money.
  Help us !!Save Beijing dogs!!Tell more people about BEIJING KILL DOGS!!!!PLEASE!!!

  By  Anonymous, at 10:31 PM, October 29, 2006  

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• I see what is happening in china and it is so wrong
  
  China has so many problems and this is only adding to it.
  
  No only are they clubbing them to death they eat and skin them alive.
  
  They use the fur from cats and dogs and skin them alive. There is no animal welfare act to protect them.
  
  Dogs are also used to eat in china. They are now selling sauce to cook them in.
  It has been going on for a long time when will this stop?
  Someone needs to let all america know about this!!!

  By  Anonymous, at 6:44 PM, November 19, 2006  

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• if you google
  china killing dogs
  or china eating dogs
  or fur from dogs in china
  
  it will come up
  
  chinese people wake up!!!
  we got he man on the moon
  
  You can stop eating dog and cat for dinner.
  
  with all the billions of people living there your so afraid of your goverment. (do something)
  
  when you said its the year of the dog you wernt kidding

  By  Anonymous, at 6:53 PM, November 19, 2006  

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• china powerfull hahaha
  
  it only goes to show you what power does to people

  By  Anonymous, at 7:04 PM, November 19, 2006  

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• this is insane. how would they like it if we did that to them huh? if they hadnt made all those dogs reproduce and used them for all sorts of shit, AKA to EAT THEM, would china have to do this? They are freaking rich and can easily afford vaccines, but they waste their money on crueler and crueler ways to brutally slaughter animals, and i mean every animal. God knows what they do to make things in china, and theres no reason to treat God's creation like this. SHAMEFUL ASSHOLES

  By  Anonymous, at 1:56 PM, March 26, 2007  

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• Hello，Everyone.
  I'm a undergraduate from China. Firstly,I can understand you. And I am strongly against killing dogs too.
  Yesterday, I had seen a DV showing the process of a unversity's security guard killing an abandoned dog cruelly.() I cried. But I know there are too many things like this happened and will happen in China for we have no relative laws. I want to stop these cruel things. However, I realize there is no way to stop such things. So, I have to turn to other countries for help. In fact, most of Chinese are not that cruel. We love dogs as much as you. Although some may think I am stupid, I still want to have a try. For those poor dogs. I can not stand them being killed any more!

  By  dogsangle, at 1:43 AM, April 22, 2007  

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• The cruel DV is on this website http://www.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzUwOTg4OA==.html
  
  It happened on April 4th 2007 in a university. The cruel man is a guard. It is guessed that he DV was made by a student stealthily. There are more than 2500 comments crticizing the man within two days. A lot of people are tring their best to find out the "murder". But in the long run, this is far from enough. Thus, we need more helps. If any of you can provide any kind of help, please email to me. Thank you very much.

  By  dogsangle, at 2:04 AM, April 22, 2007  

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• my email is
  
  dogsangle@gmail.com

  By  Anonymous, at 10:58 PM, April 22, 2007  

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• Chinese Government should kill all the dogs in the cities. There are too many dogs and they become nasty places in the world. If you like dogs, you should come to China to collect those dogs to your countrie. Do not only blame us only in words here. you fools.

  By  Anonymous, at 10:05 PM, November 20, 2007  

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• You chinese people should stop kiling dogs for that you are not going to heaven and stop putting lead on baby and dog toys i bet you wouldnt like it if we cought you killing dogs cause then yo will be hoing to jail and tell your president to change laws in that country.

  By  Daniel, at 10:03 AM, February 22, 2008  

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